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dazhibernian
The runner/messenger ran from the battle of Marathon to Athens. It was 26 miles. Thats what marathons are based after. When he arrived in Athens he yelled "Nike" meaning 'victory'. Thats where Nike clothing named themselves.
TylerE
I woulda been killed at birth😖
Kian M.Tamar
Fun Fact: 300 is only 15 minutes long if played at normal speed and not in *slow-motion.*
biggest smoke
"Number's alone can't guarantee victory" Tell that to Stalin
The Angry Badger 2506
“Spartans never die. They’re just missing in action.” - Catherine Halsey from the ‘Halo’ series
lefu
But just how historically accurate was the SLO MO?
E X
Fun fact only 299 Spartans died because 1 left
Prince Sheo
The main reason why the Persians had much less armour wasn't because of technological inferiority but because of their home territorys conditions and their tactics. Persia was mostly full of vast plains and deserts with a few mountain ranges and hills that have long since been safe from any sort of invasion, so their soldiers wore light armour and brought lighter weapons because they had to run and maneuver constantly in battles. This became a massive detriment to them whenever they invaded Greece because all of the battles there were in much smaller and tighter confines with mountains, hills, rivers, lakes and the very sea preventing them from being a mobile force, their preferred strategy and the strategy they've been equipped for.
Martin Anthonyo
Spartan women are actually more than just baby producers, they were super rich. When a spartan husband dies, which happens a lot to a warrior nation state, inherited his wealth, to his wife. And when that wife dies, her children inherited the wealth, and if one of the children are daughters, then they'll get it too. And when the daughters marry a man, with pockets full from inheritance money, when the man she married dies, she inherits his wealth. And this happens over generations, and women of sparta became very rich, and even the kings would make loans to the spartan women just to get by.
mankytoes
Xexes didn't think he was invading "Greece" because "Greece" wasn't a unified state, in theory or practise. Funny enough, the Persian Wars were the beginning of a collective Greek identity.
Robert McMillan
Numbers don't beat superior tech? Soviet Russia disagrees.
BIG Dave
Its understandable that Xerxes and the Persian empire were portrayed badly in this western film. The Persians were actually seriously enlightened, slavery was a crime for example and social mobility was actually a thing. Persia made Rome look barbaric.
The Geek Crusade
Video starts at 0:57 after that ridiculous, unnecessarily long intro.
SelfReflective
The truth about Thermopylae is far more interesting than this abominable fiction. First, there weren't only 300 Spartans defending the pass; there were also a few thousand other warriors from allied Greek city-states. Second, the Persian army was at most 125 thousand men, and that includes courtiers, cooks, women, etc...there were a lot of non-combatants because that's how the Persian king rolled into war. Third, the stand at Thermopylae wasn't a suicidal mission, it was actually a clever move; the counterpart, which is never discussed, is that the Athenians were to hold the Persian fleet at Artemisium, while the Spartans and allies held the pass; because the secret passage was betrayed, their mission was fatal and tragic, but all in all, they weren't blood-thirsty maniacs rushing head-long into death, as portrayed here. Fourthly, the battle of Thermopylae is not the most important thing; the subsequent victory by Athens and other Greek city-states at Salamis and Platea was far more important. But of that not a pip. No movies, no legends, and that's why I say, forget fiction and nonsense, you wanna know what's really important, study history. Sadly, most people's knowledge of ancient Greece will be limited to this horrid garbage.
Andrew
The whole "Spartans were pedophiles" is questionable at best. There are all kinds of contradictory sources. Xenophon, a contemporary Athenian who's sons actually went through the Agoge, stated flate out that it was not true and explicitly forbid, And of course Spartans themselves left little written record So most accounts are from outside (IE; questionable sources)
Tom Brady
Who’s here from Assassins Creed Odyssey
Kludgeon
For those who think that Persians *did* take slaves, or that Xerxes was the first king of Persia to permit slavery, that's completely false, Xerxes *never* permitted slavery, neither did any other king in during the Achaemenid dynasty. The only time period in which Persians took slaves was during the Sassanid dynasty, over 700 years after the battle of Thermopylae (the battle shown in the video). And even when they did permit slavery, they were Roman prisoners of war that were only used for farming, if they converted to Zoroastrianism (Persia's major religion at the time) they would be set free, and the owners, nonetheless, were forbidden to act violently towards their slave, they had to treat them humanely. Slaves also had other rights such as keeping gifts to them and they also had three-day breaks. The law also protected slaves, one of these laws was that: _No one may inflict upon slaves a fatal punishment for a single crime... Not even the king himself may slay anyone on the account of one crime._
TJW595
One key decider was the famous Greek Phalanx formation of locked shields and long spears which proved invaluable not only for this battle, but also the eventual expansion of Alexander. The phalanx was so effective that it would remain so until the advent of the Roman Legion and its Manipular structure which was still in essense a form of the Phalanx. Even to this day, the phalanx is used in combat to some extent, seen extensively in crowd control tactics by police and paramilitary groups.
Zakari
queue the unnecessary 1 minute intro
Azkamooski
"That's gay!" "Yes sir, very gay!" XD I love you.
LunarEldritch
the persians were actually really good people even by todays standards
Andrew Pagliaro
Do the Bible next
2012isRonPaul
so did they wipe out their whole civilization and rape all of the fitness models? how much was the gym ticket?
Memeical
greeks beautiful cultured and good persians bad Like seriously as a half Greek myself I am extremely bothered by how disgustingly inaccurate and biased this movie is. I was in fact so bothered that I [shit you not] left the movie middle ways that's the only time I've EVER done such thing.
The Cool Persian
I see a lot of comments talking about how Nick didn't talk about this historical inaccuracy, or this historical inaccuracy, but if you watch the video Nick said how he wouldn't talk about all the historical inaccuracies because the movie's source material was a graphic novel and not history. Believe me, I know how inaccurate this movie is ;)
Antonis Ano
You also forgot to mention how the infant spartans were bathed in wine, so the ones who survived supposedly had a better chance of becoming strong warriors. In addition during their trainning they used to drink blood(usually boar's) mixed with honey to supposedly develop stronger immune systems.
Rage Quit
so your saying sparta was camping?
Ivan Su
If persia’s army were so weak, how did they conquer so much land?
Varno
For everyone who wonders about intro song; It's Escala - Palladio
Larry McMorris
Fun movie but is 98% BS
wtm7899ify
Intro is way too long!
Cristian Playz
To all the people saying that history buffs is lying about Persia,watch the end of the video and learn that HB mentions the fact that 300 is based on the perspective of a Spartan warrior.
L-Train 45
Most of this stuff about Sparta is not true. Just not true. Ridiculously inaccurate. This whole channel is just a guys opinion really
ZenTatsi
Shame that a Greek hasn't made a video about it, so many inaccuracies..
Daniel Flanard
I wish we could send all of the gruff men at there saying society is too soft nowadays back to ancient Sparta and see how long they would last
Anthro Productions -Theofilos Rigas
Where is the evidence for Leonidas and all his men having sexual relations with children or each other for that matter - point me to the ancient sources, the only ones that actually matter since our modern information comes from these primary sources. I think you will have difficulty finding some primary sources to support your claim.
Cosroe
What you are saying is true about the state of the Persian infantry. I think their technical superiority lay in their cavalry (they were early practitioners of cataphracts and shock cavalry). However, they did not use heavy cavalry in great numbers until the Partho-Sasanian era... where often their entire armies was made up of them.
Scott Emerson
So 300 is ok because it was based on a graphic novel, but "The Patriot" and "Apocalypto" aren't because they didn't have a graphic novel to descend upon, just fused fiction and some fact? Essentially script written "graphic novel" when it comes to story boarding? Sure, I wish the movies I mentioned had more realistic approaches, but you should maybe review the older "The 300 Spartans" for the accuracy. All these comments aside, love the reviews :) !!!
Rango's old dead chann
Couldn't stop laughing at the gay part
Arian Mahrokh
As a persian I really hate this movie
Metaknight145
Don't we do that too but with abortion instead. Hardly seems fair to criticize them for just killing off the defect children when we do it too. We just have the technology to detect defects and kill them before they come out.
Username 122748909298443
I support the Persians! Fight me, greeks!
Frost Dearwinter
300 Spartans and 15000 allied troops hold Persians for 2 days then Persians moved around them on another path, allies retreated to defend there homelands Spartans lost :p
Dantick09
This content is top quality you need more views.
Theforcer 1
14:42 TITS!!!!!!!!!!
Alex Burchartz
Kinda messed up the equipment thing. Its not that Persians were behind in Tech more that they were suited for a different kinda warfare, the comment on the Spartans being Heavy Infantry alludes to this but doesn't state it. Persians were made fro warfare in an open environment where Elements of an Army can move more swiftly and harass their enemies, their armor was made to reflect this being light and flexible. Persian soldiers were built for Speed Spartans for Strength
Abdukahor Muzaffarzoda
The only thing in the 300 that's historically accurate is that Spartans fought Persia even then the Spartans didn't fought alone as thousands fighters from other Greek states were in the fight.
mr. skeltal
may i ask what the intro music is?
SchmittJ2017
Helen of Troy was from Mycenean Sparta. Long before the Dorians came and made Sparta into a warrior culture.
Oshun
i swear you've got the most badass video intro of all time.
Robert Gaudreault
Quick thing, as someone else who has studied the history of Sparta I just want to point out a few things: First of all Spartan society was primarily based around war and had every kid train for it from the age of 7, however, the Spartans saw this as one of the highest honours they could receive. It is impossible to record how the Spartan children thought of the agoge but there's no recorded history of them rejecting it or even their parents rejecting it at any point in society. It is important to keep in mind that people were exposed to war and death a lot more often in those times so it did not seem as bad as it does today, this goes with the pederasty, the Spartans believed the strength of a man was in his sperm so the whole thing was meant for educational purposes alone (it was even a crime for the teacher to develop feelings from the child). Another glaring issue I saw was that the Spartans were recorded to have a very civil society, it is theorized that the Spartan men were not angered as easily because any rage they had they took out on the battlefield, they were probably subjected to harsh environments while at war but there's nothing to prove this. There is a lot more to say but these just seemed like a few misunderstandings, thats all
Orlanzo Telfer
Great Video...and a Great movie.... I didn't look at it like it was being told from Dillios perspective ..even tho he was narrating the whole movie but it makes perfect sense..the Persians are soulless monsters...and the parts that he couldn't Kno about like the betrayal scean he just describes weird things like a goat head man playing a flute... Because that's the type of weird stuff he imagine would be happening in the Persian camp....again great video
Jacob Cumberbatch
The movie creepy
NinjaSheep
Yeah.... NO. You've mistaken history for 2500 year old propaganda poorly translated and exaggerated. Spartans were originally island raiders who invaded the area around Sparta and enslaved the Greek inhabitants making them the lowest caste in the caste hierarchy. This made the spartan citizens extremely wealthy and very paranoid of slave revolts. In terms of government the kings (there were 2) were functionally figure heads outside of war and the real power was in the hands of a council of old wealthy male oligarchs and fabulously wealthy buisnesswomen. The Spartan citizens were closer to nobility. They trained for war like almost every Greek city state but the primary focus was education in fields like philosophy, dance, sports etc. in terms of foreign policy spartan was very reserved and relied on mercenaries, their famous generals and their allies. Athens was by far more aggressive and war focussed. In terms of the actual battle they would rotate out several city states armies holding the pass to let the others rest. The Spartans in fact were reluctant at first to go up against this force. Then after their successes they learned that the Persians had scouted another pass and so a handful of city states including Sparta's 300 (around 1200 total) decided to keep holding and died. Sparta with their fabulous wealth, borders more closed off than North Korea and paranoia of losses then went crazy with the propaganda and built their reputation up so much very few people directly challenged them and they almost never risked a pitch loss to break their propaganda. Then after a few hundred years of this going on their citizenry diminished as the hyper conservative government wouldn't lower standards and so they functionally became more and more overextended until Thebes beat them in the field killing around 30% of their entire citizenry and damaging their reputation so they soon after collapsed into basically actual North Korea.
D Money 415
They were a special unit in the army that were 300 gay dude.
66abady
that intro is 10/10
Ryan Depaulo: Degenerate Gambler
Dude thank god we live today and not any other time in history or I'd be in fetal position on battle field cold and alone
MrSave TheDay
No one needs a 50 second intro. No one.
Madalin Grama
I don't like this movie.... But not because of its historical inacuracies. It's because more than 70% of the movie is just fighting, fighting and...more fighting. The fight scenes are great, don;t get me wrong, but it gets really boring after 40 minutes or so.
Keith Graham
The reason the Spanish defeated the Aztec's because the Aztecs would not fight unless the shamen/seers/prophets gave good omens - they did not so the Aztecs waited - and died. If the omens had been good, history may be completely different.
Nicholas Parliament
I don't think you give the Persians or Xerxes enough credit. The Achaemenid Empire was huge, and had a lot of other things to worry about. Supposedly, taking revenge on Athens was so low of Darius' priority list, he hired somebody to remind him every day at dinner. The amount of supply and logistics it took to bring a massive army that far (and in effect, conquer Greece and burn Athens to the ground) was a truly a feat. The Greeks were nothing to the Persians. Some strange people living on the fringes of their empire stirring up trouble in Anatolia.
Weedus
What you say around 11 Minutes isnt fair... at Marathon there was not a real orderly battle... the greek heavy infantery waited hidden at the Dunes as the Persians landed their Ship,and then attacked Cavalery Soldiers who had their Armor and horses still under Deck,Archers who had no Arrows,Infantermen who dont had Shields or Spears.... it was an excellent Ambush and they slaughtered them at the Beach.... from Persian Perspective there was nothing which would have let them thought that their Army organisation is inferior...they just where attacked in the worst moment possible....
SiMing Meng
What's the name of the opening music?
SwampySack
as far back in childhood that my memory allows, i've been having the same dream sporadically. in that dream, i was with a bunch of strangers & we were intensely trying to protect someone. i didn't know who this person was but every ounce of fiber in my body was telling me to defend this individual at all cost. i remember feeling a great deal of anxiety or concern, an immense sense of desperation though i can't explain why. then in an instant, like it happened countless of times before, an arrow would always pierce my neck. i would stare at the arrowhead few inches from my face in total disbelief or shock that it went through me, then i'd wake up with heart razing.. every single time. this dream kept occurring throughout my adult & military life. then during the iraq war in '04 fallujah, i happened to pass by an abandoned storage room on base. at the corner of the floor, there was a dusty book titled Gates of Fire, i think it was left there by the previous unit that occupied the base. at first i didn't care because reading books bores me. then i realized how worse our down times were so i took it. it was about the spartans during the battle of thermopylae, told by an esquire. i've heard of the spartans from freshmen history class but never really paid any attention since i'm dozing off majority of the time. but a few days into the book, as i read the part about the remaining spartans trying to prevent the persians from obtaining leonidas' dead body. that very moment, for the first time in my life, i discovered something that i could relate my life long nightmares with. i couldn't believe the similarities in such emotional details. as if the author knew exactly what i was feeling during the nightmare. but perhaps the weirdest part of all, after finishing the book, the nightmares stopped. it's been nearly 15 years & the dream that haunted me since the dawn of my existence had ceased to exist. i still can't explain it to this very day.
BratzernN Arntzen
This is way over-simplified and you provde little no to sources, I recall you mentioning Herodotus only. Firstly, Sparta is sure as hell glorified and made a legend by dramatics throughout history, with little evidence. They were strong at their peak, during the peloponnesian wars yes, but they had strong political allies within the peloponnesian region. Corinth and Argos most notably have had more reliable sources saying they were the strongest of the greek cities when it came to warfare. Secondly, the training of children from six years until they were adults was single-purposedly a measure of keeping the heliots repressed. Sure, the experience and tough skin helps in war, but they relied on mercenaries and allies as much as the other greek cities.
ShantyLady
I'm so glad I stumbled on this. I'm playing through Assassin's Creed: Odyssey right now, set in ancient Greece and dealing with the internal wars between Sparta and Athens. Again, creative liberties are taken to provide the narrative, and I'm totally cool with that. I think this was very well done and well researched, and I'm also happy to know that you didn't pan the movie outright at the end. Frank Miller has such a wonderful way with the pen in his linework, and I'm glad that the film adaptations of his works have continued with that.
SlyBiffrons
Should've also pointed out that Persians treated women well for an ancient society, unlike what was shown in 300 where the ambassador scoffs at the idea of a woman speaking freely.
kxr
the Persians were actually the good guys. there were no slaves in Persia and every nation they conquered was given equal rights. unlike the Greeks who enslaved those that they conquered.
James Rx
Omg so much intro. Awesome video tho :D your avatar toon reminds me of gummi bears the cartoon for some reason. Cheers!
jmm1233
spartan society nowadays , be like the totalitarian dystopia society of 1984 INSOC + starship trooper's Terran Federation , Would like to know more ?
That86guy Patrick
I will say that yes the Spartan society was obviously pretty awful thing today standards but honestly things like that were pretty normal back then
papajohnloki
Aristotle said the reason Sparta was good was they trained for war but since everybody trained everybody beat them. They should have filmed Gates Of Fire (Pressfield) which did not shortchange the Thespians.
Brent McClay
love 300. review was spot on.
bonomaully kamlesh
Absolutely nonsense and bullshit. They were 300 for sure.
Another Communist
wasn't the "IF" from Philip of Macedon?
Devin McEvoy
Not to be that guy but I think you don't really have much of a grasp on this historical subject. Xerxes didn't spend 10 years preparing to invade Greece. He had to put down a revolt in Egypt just before he went to fight the Greeks. Darius the Great's plan was nearly complete when he died, but as they do, people revolted. Not only that but the Persians were used to fighting everyone else in the world aside from Greeks with their current weapon system. They used a massive amount of archers supported by a rank or two of light infantry holding short spears and shields. The entire Persian strategy was to whittle enemies down with arrow fire and then use their massively superior cavalry to ride them down once they broke or flank with them. Obviously the Spartans at Thermopole had a massive advantage in positioning and equipment. However, you don't just change all your gear and tactics of your entire military when you are winning every other fight you get into. Plus, lets not forget who won at the Hot Gates. Also, best not to forget who ended up fighting for who in the future. Far more Greek hoplites ended up fighting for the Persians in future wars. Persia didn't need to bet the Greeks in open combat. They just paid them to kill each other which was a ludicrously effective strategy. The Persian army eventually lost to the Greeks in later years but in the end it did pretty much nothing to their power and afterwards they just bought Greeks like toys and smashed them against each other. It's tempting to demonize the Persians because of the whole Eastern vs Western thing but looking at the facts changes how the whole story goes. Not until Alexander the Great came along and really whooped the shit out of the Persians did they have much of a hiccup in their near world domination. Not to mention that by the time of Alexander's death he had taken up the dress, fashion, and manners of the Persian king of kings, in Civ they call that a cultural victory. :P Love your stuff! Keep it truckin'!
ross
how could HISTORY BUFFS say that the spartans were the greatest warriors of ancient Greece?? it was widely held, even by the Spartans, that the sacred band of Thebes were the greatest warriors
mdimarov
what about their 6500 greek states warriors that were in the war
Jacob Cyrus
It was to embellish the ferocity of the Persian empire and the bravado of the Spartans. Kinda how what was written and passed down orally from the biblical times, as opposed to what actually happened, which remains a mystery.
John Chaziris
History Buffs Nice video my friend, but i must say that the historical trouth about Spartan's homosexual affairs or pederasty says the opposite. Rhetors from Athens and their allies had accused Spartans (enemies) for pederasty. Xenophon of Athens (430 – 354 BC), a contemporary source, categorically denied any homosexuality in Sparta. Also Aristotle further complains that the lack of homosexuality in Sparta was responsible for the unacceptable way the Spartan women acted. Homosexuality was accepted mostly in the Democratic city states like Athens, Thebes, etc. but not in Sparta. n Laws, Plato takes a more austere stance to homosexuality, stating: ... one certainly should not fail to observe that when male unites with female for procreation the pleasure experienced is held to be due to nature, but contrary to nature when male mates with male or female with female, and that those first guilty of such enormities [the Cretans] were impelled by their slavery to pleasure. And we all accuse the Cretans of concocting the story about Ganymede. Strange thing is that, the ancient historians and Epic poets (before 6th century BC) don't mention homosexuality as something commonness in the time's social life, even in the Homeric version of Ganymedes myth. Another mistake is that Helen of Troy (Lacedaaemon) was in the Mycenaean period (about 1200 BC). The later militaristic state of Sparta established after the Dorians migration (after 1100 BC) estimated about 820 BC by Lycurgus the Spartan (the lawgiver- state reformer).
lazyartist Last
fun fact, king Leonidas 1 was one of the few kings of Sparta to actually undergo spartan training. the King's First born son was exempt from the spartan training, and Leonidas, not being the first born was not exempt.
TravisNamasté
5:00 Seth Rollins? 😦
林鼎鈞
Several facts that you left out: it was not only the 300 spartans that were there, but 300 spartans and other greeks that added up to 3000 men The Persians went into hand to hand combat the first two days and suffered heavy casualties because they wanted to "make a fair fight", while they have artilleries and archers, which they ended up to use on the third day while flanking from behind
Mikey_Suze Four
*THIS IS SPARTA!*
Tuatara Taniwha
thx ac odyssey
GenericFakeName
So Greece had early Democracies and early Fascists, interesting.
Tiwaking Tiwaking
9:50 *MY ARMY WILL NOT BE BEATEN BY A BUNCH OF 300 POOFTERS!*
Mike Laugh
Please do Windtalkers
ChristianCountryBoy i Love Jesus Christ!
Do Ben-Hur the original.
TKF
Enjoyed the story
The Gaming Kitchen
History channel needs to be in touch with you.
Swiftie Forever
What the hell is ''MACEDONIA''. I am done.
Ryan Kroger
11:40 the Soviet Union during WWII in a nutshell
ahmed bdhief
epic intro does anyone know the intro soundtrack ?
Gazza Rover
LMAO thank you for an entertaining and honest review, well done.
xKAIIRUx
8:11 AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA "Assyria"
David Dunn
Also much like alot of times in history the wrong side won... despite what they say the Persians were more tolerant to races and regions believes as well as class and slavery well better than the Greeks.... I say a lot because the French were more tolerant to natives then the British and then  the British to Africans as compared to the Americans
1oAce
I thought that the whole Spartan military fame was just propaganda.
Nothin2801
Whats that song in the intro? Reminds me of two steps from hell.
MrSporkster
Still more accurate than Pearl Harbour.